Sunday, 26 September 2010

Miliband a new generation - or the same old, same old?"



Chewing over what was yesterday’s election, no sorry, coronation of the young man crowned king of all Labourites has left me wondering; am I getting too old?”

These leaders, not just of the Labour Party, but all political parties, seem to be picking them younger and younger, although 40 is considered middle age by most. And Ed Miliband looks younger than his years; I remember watching him on Question Time and thinking that he looks rather like a well groomed student.

When I first joined the Labour Party in October1974 and just in time for that second general election held that year, Harold Wilson was the leader, and he already looked like someone’s granddad, puffing away and chewing the end of his pipe. He Wilson had been in politics for at least three decades before assuming and taking over the leadership, and for me Wilson will always be an icon of the 1960s just like the Beatles, that rock group from Liverpool who between 1962 and 1970 produced a variety of hit songs and albums (most of them written by Paul McCartney and John Lennon).

So when I think about it, leaders seem to be getting younger, even Margret Thatcher had been in parliament for 30 years before becoming the Queen Boudica of the Tory party, good comparison I think, for she was one formidable lady in history whose name will never be forgotten unfortunately. "She was like Boudica tall, the glance of her eye most fierce; her voice harsh. Her appearance was as we now know, most terrifying." - Definitely a lady to be noticed back then!”

Anyhow, better not go wondering off to far aloof into the distant past.

Here is some voting statistics to munch over.



What sort of a leader will Ed Miliband become?”

Well mine and Brian Hopper’s sentiments are this – don’t hold your breath!”

First thing to say is that the election statistics are open to interpretation, and could mean many things to many different people, for us we read that Ed Miliband just scraped home narrowly beating his brother David by a small 1.3% margin of victory", and who retains much support in the Parliamentary Party, will this mean that the new leader will be a prisoner of right-wing Blairite's, remains to be seen. The elections now to be held for the shadow cabinet will be reviling, will the old guard hold on, will they gracefully stand down, and I am thinking of the likes of  Alistair Darling, Jack Straw, Alan Johnson, Nick Brown and Tessa Jowell just to name but a few. Nominations for the shadow cabinet elections officially open today, and voting begins on 4 October, with the result announced at 10pm on 7 October.

Well that’s it for now in regard to Mr Ed, we now awaited the leaders speech which he delivers to conference this coming Tuesday, and then we will make a fuller analysis of which way we think his leadership will take the Labour Party.     

4 comments:

harpymarx said...

I know what you mean but not sure it's about age, it is more about experience. Mister Ed (rather like the other 3, at least Diane Abbott, this is not saying much either, has been a counsellor and on the NEC etc) hasn't had experience within the labour movement, none of them have. They were either researchers, policy analysts, journalist/advisers. It doesn't say labour movement in the least.

They haven't engaged with real people in the real world, they haven't had public sector jobs (I remember when I first got involved in the LP in '85... many of the activists had average jobs and that included prospective counsellors etc.

Also, what the 4 lack is having NO union experience whatsoever, this came out when asked a real question by a real union activist (FBU) on QT the other week. Balls was anti-union, so was Miliband senior and Burnham, Mister Ed acted confused and showed how clueless he was on industrial issues (I mean, look at Vestas and the way he dealt with that). Mister Ed kept going on about "negotiations' but as the woman union member rightly said, what happens if negotiations break down and striking is the only option option. The only one of the candidates who supported the right to strike was.... Diane Abbott.

Mister Ed isn't the way forward for the Labour left, there are many people who have illusions in this man. On Andrew Marr, he called strikes "sign of desperation" as opposed to a sign of defiance/determination. He capitulated to the line on welfare ("malingerers") and praised Purnell on welfare.

The future doesn't bode well....

Norbert said...

Thank harpymarx,

I must say we are candidly honoured to revive a well put argument and comment from your good-self. I will take my time in posting a reply after spending a wee bit of time considering your post, besides I am writing at this moment a post about autumn, as inspired by your photography of last week, so with best wishes, I will get back latter to this subject!"

Norbert said...

Hi harpymarx,

First thing is, it was what Mr Ed said at the end of his crowning about the next generation: “Today a new generation begins.”

I agree with you about experience, he has that and is a very good tactician, the TUs will learn that again, and the other sections of support he secured in his successful bid.

They were and are all slick with that slippery smoothness of the professional bull shitter. And I very much agree about activists that had average jobs, this was my experience of many party members long ago, but the party has changed thanks to the New Labour architects. Many members of the party that I have spoken to think nothing of supporting the wars, and will even tell you that it was all for our own good, keeping the streets safe from terrorist attacks and so on!”

None of the 4 have or hold any real conviction towards the TU movement, and I mean an unshakable belief, and in the development or re-building of that movement.

Mr Ed is not a good asset for left socialist development within the Labour Party, today or tomorrow or ever at all. Like you there are many good socialists in the Labour Party that I cannot help thinking are banging their heads against the wall, wasting good energy on a finished, busted organisation, and I say that with all due respect to them. The founders of the party must be turning constantly in their graves!”

harpymarx said...

Like you there are many good socialists in the Labour Party that I cannot help thinking are banging their heads against the wall, wasting good energy on a finished, busted organisation, and I say that with all due respect to them. "

Banging my head against a brick wall... know that feeling so well....

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